Citroën Visa Profile

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Citroën Visa General Information

The Visa is a B-segment compact car to replace the Dyane, which in turn was a larger version of the 2CV. And well, nothing could really replace the Visa. Strangely the Visa was only made as a 5-door, its little 3-door sister was briefly sold in France only as the Citroën Axel before it was passed on to Oltcit in Romania. For a Dyane successor the Visa looked conservative on the outside but with plenty of odd details, it featured boxer engines (at first, later it was on Peugeot engines) and the dash board was bursting with oddity and strange ideas. It wasn't ugly but it took some getting used to - a proper Citroën!

Now the Visa in rallying:

Now, this was just so absolutely nothing what groupB was all about! And anyway, if we are talking budget cars for amateurs, groupB just must be the least suitable category by far! GroupB as a cost reduction class, yeah right, get out of here! The designers of groupB surely were just as surprised as you when they learned Citroën wanted to homologate their budget car for amateurs into groupB. Surely Pirelli girls know more about designing a rally car than all these Citroën engineers together!

OK, OK. Let's at least try to understand what Citroën had done. So we take a small Citroën Visa and strip it of absolutely everything. Once that is done, we strip it even more, off go the steel body panels - according to groupB freedom that's going to be replaced not by most expensive composite materials, but plastic. Even the glass from the side windows has to go for clear plastic - too heavy. Then with a certain BHP figure in mind, we give it the smallest engine that can achieve that figure, in fact the same 1360cc engine that was in the Peugeot 104 ZS Evo2, but with the biggest carburettors we can possibly find - groupB freedom.... So far you would have a Visa Chrono, but the icing on the cake is the 1000 Pistes (pronounce "Mill pissed"): Add 4x4, but again nothing fancy with complicated and expensive clever diffs, just something that gives it ultimate traction and is still relatively simple.

So, now you have a rally car that despite 4x4 would not weight more than 850kg and with 145BHP it isn't far off the power to weight ratio of a modern class N4 car as Mitsubishi Lancer or Subaru Impreza - but for a fraction of the price!

Genius!

The results proved that this was a very good attempt indeed. The car's best result was Jean-Claude Andruet's 7th place on the Monte 1985. And just before you are asking questions about black ice and loads of retirements, a young Mark Lovell was 12th overall on the 1984 RAC with a Visa 1000 Pistes, a result that had him ahead of David Llewellin's works Nissan Silvia 240RS and embarrassingly close to Roger Clark's groupB Prodrive Porsche 911, a result Mark never managed to repeat, not even in full works Sierra Cosworths, when there were no groupB supercars around.
 

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Citroën Visa Evolutions

 
 
Model & Evo. (Activity)
 
BHP@
RPM
Torque
(Nm)@
RPM
Length
Width
Height
Weight
(Kg/BPM
Ratio)
 
Trans.
(W'base)
Citroën Visa 1000 Pistes (82-88) 145/6000 165/5500 3740.1555.1398 850 (5.8) 4x4 (2426)
Citroën Visa Chrono (82-88) 145/6000 165/5500 3740.1555.1398 760 (5.2) FWD (2426)
Citroën Visa Super (81-83) 210 0 3740.0.1398 860 (4.1) RWD (2426)

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Citroën Visa Results

This is an unofficial Car Results list and may be incomplete.

Pos Event Driver Co-Driver # Rego hh:mm:ss
7th. 1987 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo C. Dorche D. Breton #161 [UNKNOWN] 8:11:44
6th. 1987 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo J. Ballet M. Lallement #164 [UNKNOWN] 8:09:58
13th. 1987 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo C. Vergnaud M. Jouan #163 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
24th. 1987 WRC Swedish Rally C. Vergnaud M. Jouan #170 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
12th. 1987 WRC Acropolis Rally M. Chomat D. Breton #100 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
10th. 1985 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo M. Chomat D. Breton #21 [UNKNOWN] 11:20:00
8th. 1985 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo J. Andruet A. Peuvergne #7 [UNKNOWN] 11:13:12
11th. 1985 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo C. Dorche G. Thimonier #24 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
13th. 1984 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo C. Dorche G. Thimonier #53 [UNKNOWN] 10:15:57
9th. 1984 WRC Rallye de Portugal C. Dorche G. Thimonier #27 [UNKNOWN] 9:25:03
13th. 1984 WRC Safari Rally M. Chomat D. Breton #14 [UNKNOWN] 12:12:00
18th. 1984 WRC Safari Rally P. Wambergue P. Tilbury #19 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
18th. 1984 WRC Rally of Finland C. Rio J. Vieu #18 [UNKNOWN] 4:53:49
15th. 1984 WRC Rally of Finland O. Tabatoni B. Dondoz #56 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
12th. 1984 WRC Rally of Great Britain M. Lovell P. Davis #39 [UNKNOWN] 10:21:53
18th. 1984 WRC Rally of Great Britain C. Rio J. Vieu #27 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
25th. 1983 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo M. Chomat D. Breton #28 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
34th. 1983 WRC Swedish Rally C. Dorche P. Thimonier #60 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
13th. 1983 WRC Rallye de Portugal C. Dorche . UNKNOWN #25 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
9th. 1983 WRC Tour de Corse A. Coppier J. Laloz #18 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
25th. 1983 WRC Tour de Corse C. Laurent J. Marché #20 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
10th. 1983 WRC Acropolis Rally M. Chomat D. Breton #34 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
9th. 1983 WRC Acropolis Rally P. Wambergue V. Laverne #42 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
11th. 1983 WRC Acropolis Rally C. Rio B. Dondoz #38 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
19th. 1983 WRC Rallye San Remo C. Dorche . UNKNOWN #37 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
11th. 1983 WRC Rallye San Remo V. Caneva L. Roggia #26 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
18th. 1983 WRC Rally of Great Britain C. Rio J. Vieu #36 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
14th. 1983 WRC Rally of Great Britain M. Chomat D. Breton #38 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
49th. 1982 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo C. Dorche P. Trivero #38 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
39th. 1982 WRC Swedish Rally C. Dorche P. Trivero #78 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
8th. 1982 WRC Rallye de Portugal C. Dorche P. Trivero #27 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
5th. 1982 WRC Rallye de Portugal A. Coppier J. Laloz #14 [UNKNOWN] 8:54:11
9th. 1982 WRC Rallye de Portugal O. Tabatoni M. Cadier #59 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
12th. 1982 WRC Acropolis Rally C. Dorche P. Thimonier #57 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
19th. 1982 WRC Rally of Finland O. Tabatoni M. Cadier #56 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
10th. 1982 WRC Rallye San Remo V. Caneva L. Roggia #75 [UNKNOWN] 10:03:48
30th. 1982 WRC Rally of Great Britain C. Dorche J. Vieu #91 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
22nd. 1982 WRC Rally of Great Britain A. Coppier L. Léjeune #28 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00

Citroën Visa Retirements

This is an unofficial Car Model Retirements list and may be incomplete.

Pos Event Driver Co-Driver # Rego Reason
Ret. 1987 WRC Rally of Finland C. Vergnaud M. Jouan #160 [UNKNOWN] SS8 ?
Ret. 1987 WRC Rallye de Portugal C. Vergnaud M. Jouan #85 [UNKNOWN] SS99 gearbox
Ret. 1987 WRC Rallye de Portugal C. Dorche D. Breton #86 [UNKNOWN] SS99 gearbox
Ret. 1985 WRC Rally of Great Britain C. Vergnaud . UNKNOWN #41 [UNKNOWN] SS12 ?
Ret. 1985 WRC Rallye San Remo G. Noberasco B. Scabini #12 [UNKNOWN] SS24 driveshaft
Ret. 1985 WRC Rallye San Remo C. Vergnaud M. Jouan #19 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1985 WRC Tour de Corse C. Vergnaud M. Jouan #20 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1985 WRC Tour de Corse O. Tabatoni D. Breton #19 [UNKNOWN] SS9 clutch
Ret. 1985 WRC Rallye de Portugal F. Peres . UNKNOWN #114 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1985 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo C. Dorche G. Thimonier #24 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1985 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo C. Rio J. Vieu #23 [UNKNOWN] SS1 crash
Ret. 1985 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo P. Wambergue B. Dondoz #14 [UNKNOWN] SS23 crash
Ret. 1985 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo F. Chauche T. Barjou #18 [UNKNOWN] SS99 engine
Ret. 1984 WRC Rally of Great Britain M. Chomat D. Breton #25 [UNKNOWN] SS15 suspension
Ret. 1984 WRC Rally of Great Britain F. Chauche T. Barjou #53 [UNKNOWN] SS34 engine
Ret. 1984 WRC Rally of Great Britain O. Tabatoni M. Cadier #40 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1984 WRC Rallye San Remo M. Chomat D. Breton #12 [UNKNOWN] SS37 engine
Ret. 1984 WRC Rallye San Remo P. Wambergue V. Laverne #15 [UNKNOWN] SS44 transmission
Ret. 1984 WRC Rallye San Remo C. Rio J. Vieu #14 [UNKNOWN] SS9 crash
Ret. 1984 WRC Rallye San Remo V. Caneva L. Roggia #21 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1984 WRC Rally of Finland M. Chomat D. Breton #17 [UNKNOWN] SS9 engine mountings
Ret. 1984 WRC Rally of Finland P. Wambergue J. de Alexandris #16 [UNKNOWN] SS4 crash
Ret. 1984 WRC Acropolis Rally O. Tabatoni M. Cadier #46 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1984 WRC Tour de Corse O. Tabatoni B. Dondoz #37 [UNKNOWN] SS6 gearbox
Ret. 1984 WRC Tour de Corse C. Dorche . UNKNOWN #33 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1984 WRC Safari Rally C. Rio J. Vieu #21 [UNKNOWN] SS29 crash
Ret. 1983 WRC Rally of Great Britain P. Wambergue J. de Alexandris #40 [UNKNOWN] SS36 engine
Ret. 1983 WRC Rally of Great Britain A. Coppier J. Laloz #99 [UNKNOWN] SS57 suspension
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye San Remo A. Coppier L. Léjeune #39 [UNKNOWN] SS99 crash
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye San Remo M. Verini . UNKNOWN #23 [UNKNOWN] SS99 alternator
Ret. 1983 WRC Rally of Finland A. Coppier J. Laloz #21 [UNKNOWN] SS22 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Rally of Finland O. Tabatoni B. Dondoz #22 [UNKNOWN] SS25 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Acropolis Rally A. Coppier J. Laloz #35 [UNKNOWN] SS3 engine mountings
Ret. 1983 WRC Acropolis Rally . "Iavaris" . UNKNOWN #19 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Acropolis Rally M. Verini . UNKNOWN #33 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Acropolis Rally O. Tabatoni M. Cadier #39 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Acropolis Rally C. Dorche P. Thimonier #41 [UNKNOWN] SS44 transmission
Ret. 1983 WRC Tour de Corse C. Dorche G. Thimonier #24 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Tour de Corse O. Tabatoni M. Cadier #57 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye de Portugal C. Rio J. Vieu #29 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye de Portugal F. Romaozinho P. de Almeida #22 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye de Portugal P. Wambergue B. Dondoz #27 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye de Portugal M. Chomat D. Breton #31 [UNKNOWN] SS26 steering
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye de Portugal A. Coppier J. Laloz #23 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye de Portugal O. Tabatoni M. Cadier #33 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo A. Coppier J. Laloz #30 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1983 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo C. Dorche G. Thimonier #34 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1982 WRC Rallye San Remo M. Verini C. Cassina #23 [UNKNOWN] SS21 engine
Ret. 1982 WRC Rally of Finland A. Coppier J. Laloz #18 [UNKNOWN] SS9 crash
Ret. 1982 WRC Acropolis Rally A. Coppier J. Laloz #19 [UNKNOWN] SS1 suspension
Ret. 1982 WRC Acropolis Rally O. Tabatoni M. Cadier #51 [UNKNOWN] SS35 ?
Ret. 1982 WRC Tour de Corse C. Dorche B. Dondoz #146 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1982 WRC Tour de Corse M. Chomat J. Vieu #25 [UNKNOWN] SS9 driveshaft
Ret. 1982 WRC Tour de Corse C. Rio A. Tabet #22 [UNKNOWN] SS5 crash
Ret. 1982 WRC Tour de Corse A. Coppier J. Laloz #19 [UNKNOWN] SS99 crash
Ret. 1982 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo X. Carlotti J. Antoniotti #96 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?