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Talbot Samba General Information

The Talbot Samba Rallye was Peugeot Talbot Sport's answer to Citroen's groupB Visa idea. While Peugeot Talbot Sport developed the Peugeot 205 T16 as their WRC weapon, they found time to create the Talbot Samba Rallye as their budget fun car. In this, you should regard the Peugeot 205 T16 as the successor to the Talbot Sunbeam Lotus and the Talbot Samba Rallye as the successor to the Peugeot 104 ZS. This also shows how closely related Peugeot & Talbot were. However unusually for the Peugeot-Talbot set up, the Samba Rallye was developped straight at Peugeot Sport Vélizy, all other Talbot projects came from Talbot's original base, the Peugeot Sport UK head quarters in Coventry. Indeed the Talbot Samba Rallye was even a rare sight on UK stages, after all Talbot's original home, while the first driver seen in an official Samba Rallye was none less than Jean-Pierre Nicolas.

In creating a budget fun car Peugeot Talbot Sport used the freedom of groupB to great effect. Like the Citroen Visa, the Talbot Samba used plastic body panels, but in contrary to the Visa, the Samba was not available as a 4x4. Therefore the Samba weighed as little as 780kg. Another distinct difference to the Visa was that Peugeot Talbot Sport wanted to homologate the Samba into the smallest groupB category, which was limited at maximum 1300cc. For this the 1360cc Peugeot XY engine as used in the Citroen Visa and the Peugeot 104 ZS Evo2 did not qualify, but at the same time the 1124cc version of the pre-TU engine family, as used on the 104 ZS Evo1, seemed a little too far off the class limit for a good result. So Peugeot Talbot Sport used an interesting but simple trick: Specially for the Samba Rallye an engine was created using the bore (block, pistons) of the 1.4 version but the stroke (crankshaft, con rods) of the 1.1, which resulted in a displacement of 1219cc. A long stroke layout would have been better for torque and the 1300cc limit, but how do you enlarge a 1.1 block, while it is easy to mill down the 1.4. While the 1219cc still wasn't bang on the class limit, it was a fairly easy thing to do and as a result power output was only 10BHP down on the Visa, but the Samba was in a lower, such more fortunate competition class.

The result was a groupB car for the equivalent price of 17,000Euros or GBP12,000 - and an exciting, little fun car at that! Like the 104 ZS, the Talbot Samba Rallye was more aimed for national championships. The highlight for the Samba Rallye was probably the German rally championship, where in 1984 - a season that saw that series packed with Audi Quattro, Opel Manta 400 & Porsche 911 - lady driver Rena Blome came 6th overall using the little Samba. And it would have been 4th had Rena not crashed her "SB-R 2858" within sight of the finish line of the last event. But as well in WRC events this car was good enough for surprising results.
 

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Talbot Samba Evolutions

 
 
Model & Evo. (Activity)
 
BHP@
RPM
Torque
(Nm)@
RPM
Length
Width
Height
Weight
(Kg/BPM
Ratio)
 
Trans.
(W'base)
Talbot Samba Rallye (83-86) 135/6700 147/5400 3506.1528.1362 780 (5.8) FWD (2340)

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Talbot Samba Results

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Pos Event Driver Co-Driver # Rego hh:mm:ss
15th. 1987 WRC Tour de Corse F. Leandri G. Luigi #104 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
9th. 1986 WRC Tour de Corse G. Casanova P. Martini #47 [UNKNOWN] 13:21:32
7th. 1985 WRC Tour de Corse J. Bouquet C. Morel #21 [UNKNOWN] 14:24:37
12th. 1985 WRC Tour de Corse F. Leandri G. Luigi #65 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
24th. 1985 WRC Rally of Great Britain J. Bouquet . UNKNOWN #30 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
16th. 1984 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo P. Kruger M. Perin #39 [UNKNOWN] 10:23:48
67th. 1984 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo F. Delecour A. Pauwels #165 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
15th. 1984 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo J. Rouget . UNKNOWN #49 [UNKNOWN] 10:21:59
19th. 1984 WRC Swedish Rally A. Wood . UNKNOWN #53 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
12th. 1984 WRC Tour de Corse P. Kruger . UNKNOWN #60 [UNKNOWN] 15:13:30
11th. 1984 WRC Tour de Corse G. Casanova C. Leca #59 [UNKNOWN] 15:03:00
34th. 1984 WRC Rally of Great Britain J. Bouquet . UNKNOWN #98 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
35th. 1983 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo R. Defour B. Chenez #100 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
50th. 1983 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo G. Casanova . UNKNOWN #208 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
14th. 1983 WRC Tour de Corse G. Casanova . UNKNOWN #147 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
12th. 1983 WRC Rallye San Remo G. del Zoppo B. Tognana #28 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00

Talbot Samba Retirements

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Pos Event Driver Co-Driver # Rego Reason
Ret. 1985 WRC Tour de Corse G. Casanova C. Leca #60 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1984 WRC Rallye San Remo G. del Zoppo B. Tognana #20 [UNKNOWN] SS14 driveshaft
Ret. 1983 WRC Tour de Corse R. Defour J. Antoniotti #151 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?