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Mazda 323 (BF/3) General Information

The Mazda is one of the easiest handling 4x4 cars ever made. This is especially in groupN important as here your chances to alter standard settings are extremely limited. The Mazda really is absolutely sweet in this aspect.

If you allow a personal note by the author: I spent 1 year starting 10 national rallies in a groupN Subaru. Not that I finished a single on of them - we got so used to problems with this f***ing Subaru, I will always see the faces of the spectators on one event, when we steered the car with a broken transmission into a field and while the spectators were busy pushing, my navigator and I got out, opened the boot, extrated grill and meat and started to enjoy the rally! Yes, we rallied with meat and a grill on board, but hey, we all knew what would happen! And we strarted 1 German Championship event with this Subaru - strangely we finished that, did the whole event with some beers, lyoner sausages and potato salad on board, we were even 3rd in group, but you should have seen my repair bill! Then one day a competitor invited me to test drive his groupN Mazda 323 4WD Turbo. Already the very first curve was in a wonderful, long, controlled drift, and following attempts had very similar, satisfying results. I couldn't believe this, I never felt that much at home in my Subaru. In fact, apart from the stupid unreliability of my STI/Koseki (if he is no Subaru expert, who else is?) prepared Subaru, the Subaru's handling always was a mystery to me, never mind what we tried. However this is not only the author's opinion. I heard similar from many other owners of the here mentioned cars. Someone once told me: "The Mazda is so unbelievably easy for a 4x4 car, if you want to see your grandmother drifting, buy her a Mazda!" In contrast once I got none less than Kalle Grundel to teach me how to control my Subaru. After 3 laps round the gravel test track he quit, saying: "I am really sorry, but I don't understand this car either!"

However the groupN 323 4WD Turbo suffers from the same major basic problem the groupA version had. The engine is rather small at 1600cc. On the groupN car this is even a bigger problem as a fairly big turbo charger has been fitted to an engine that is short of breath. This often resulted on the groupN car that you had to wait for ages for the turbo to kick in and once it did kick in you had so few revs left that with the next gear change you were back in the turbo lag. The groupA could rev a little higher. In less technical terms you could say that it is no good to have 165BHP if you only have this power for a very tiny peak. Like this, the car plainly had not much to offer in groupN against the Lancia Delta especially and even on several occasions the Ford Sierra Cosworth or BMW 325iX or Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9. (Indeed - there are several such examples at WRC level! But that also was the reason for my Mazda test drive, this competitor and indeed friend of mine wanted to test drive my Peugeot, because curiously the moment I swapped the Subaru for the Peugeot I started beating him in his 4x4 turbo Mazda! And funny enough, about 4years earlier on the ERC Hunsrück Rallye 1987, my very 205 GTI 1.9 with a more adequate driver, Peugeot Deutschland works driver Charly Beck, beat none less than gN World Champions Gregoire de Mevius and Pascal Gaban in gN Mazdas!) Still the Mazda won the groupN WRC in 1988 (in fact with Gaban and the very car that was beaten by my 205). The Mazda has been lucky that the main groupN Lancia Delta pilots had been offered and have accepted drives in groupA cars mid season.

You may find me often complaining about Asian cars (and electronics, it is out of repeated experiences) and you may find me being a big turbo fan, even a fan of turbo lags, as if you had two different cars in one. Just stay in the low revs, change up early and you will find that i.e. the turbo lag is handy having to take your nagging mother shopping through busy town traffic.... But the turbo lag as well as reliability of this car was impossible to cope with. Yet in return I am lucky enough to not only own a Peugeot 405 T16, but I have driven several Subarus, an 80 Quattro, a Lancia Delta, a BMW 325iX, a Sierra XR4x4 and although at least the last three named here were very sweet, none of these 4x4 cars was as easy to get into a drift simply under braking and then as well keep this drift as this gN Mazda 323 4WD Turbo was! It seems a weird technique, not even left foot breaking, just full lock brakes for a split second, steer, release brakes, and there we go, big fun, keeping it sideways on the throttle no problem at all. I mean this 405 T16 is maybe even too perfect, after over 10 years of having her I still haven't got a clue how not to drive her like on boring rails. That groupN Subaru I had never had that much grip, but it had so much its own mind when it came to cornering... try the same corner 4 times, 1st oversteer, 2nd understeer, 3rd spin, 4th break down. This mate's Mazda, honestly I got behind the wheel and already the very very first corner I was sideways as if I grew up with this thing since before I could even walk! And I wasn't alone reporting about this sensation. Unfortunately I wasn't alone either wondering about the engine and reliability.

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Mazda 323 (BF/3) Evolutions

Model & Evo. (Activity)
Mazda 323 (BF/3) 4WD Turbo (86-92) 165/6500 0 3990.1645.1385 1180 (7.2) 4x4 (2400)

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Mazda 323 (BF/3) Results

This is an unofficial Car Results list and may be incomplete.

Pos Event Driver Co-Driver # Rego hh:mm:ss
14th. 1991 WRC Rallye San Remo G. de Mevius H. Sauvage #15 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
32nd. 1989 WRC Swedish Rally G. de Mevius W. Lux #15 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
12th. 1989 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo G. de Mevius W. Lux #22 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
69th. 1989 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo H. Nishiyama H. Yamaguchi #76 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
22nd. 1989 WRC Rallye de Portugal S. Stubbings M. Corner #36 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
7th. 1989 WRC Rallye de Portugal G. de Mevius W. Lux #18 [UNKNOWN] 7:33:44
11th. 1989 WRC Rallye de Portugal G. del Zoppo . UNKNOWN #8 [UNKNOWN] 7:51:15
17th. 1989 WRC Rally of Finland P. Geitel K. Häkkinen #42 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
10th. 1989 WRC Rallye San Remo G. de Mevius W. Lux #19 [UNKNOWN] 7:34:16
20th. 1989 WRC Rally of Great Britain G. de Mevius W. Lux #30 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
22nd. 1988 WRC Swedish Rally M. Ercolani L. Roggia #19 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
11th. 1988 WRC Rallye de Portugal P. Gaban W. Lux #26 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
17th. 1988 WRC Rallye de Portugal S. Stubbings R. Jenkins #32 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
10th. 1988 WRC Acropolis Rally P. Gaban W. Lux #34 [UNKNOWN] 8:21:23
13th. 1988 WRC Rally New Zealand H. Nishiyama H. Yamaguchi #34 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
26th. 1988 WRC Rally of Finland S. Stubbings S. Turvey #107 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
22nd. 1988 WRC Rally of Finland G. de Mevius L. Manset #89 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
2nd. 1988 WRC Bandama Rallye P. Gaban W. Lux #8 [UNKNOWN] 5:06:33
6th. 1988 WRC Bandama Rallye D. Monin E. Chevaillier #39 [UNKNOWN] 8:08:16
16th. 1988 WRC Rallye San Remo P. Gaban W. Lux #19 [UNKNOWN] 6:52:31
17th. 1988 WRC Rallye San Remo G. Trelles P. di Bello Reyno #21 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
22nd. 1988 WRC Rally of Great Britain S. Stubbings M. Corner #87 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
11th. 1988 WRC Rally of Great Britain G. de Mevius L. Manset #86 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
27th. 1988 WRC Rally of Great Britain P. Gaban W. Lux #12 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
15th. 1987 WRC Rally of Finland P. Geitel K. Häkkinen #107 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
21st. 1986 WRC Rally of Finland P. Geitel . UNKNOWN #36 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00

Mazda 323 (BF/3) Retirements

This is an unofficial Car Model Retirements list and may be incomplete.

Pos Event Driver Co-Driver # Rego Reason
Ret. 1991 WRC Acropolis Rally P. Moschoutis . "Silef" #33 [UNKNOWN] SS24 gearbox
Ret. 1990 WRC Rally New Zealand J. McAndrew . UNKNOWN #27 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1990 WRC Safari Rally H. Nishiyama H. Sugiura #44 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1989 WRC Rally of Great Britain S. Stubbings M. Corner #69 [UNKNOWN] SS44 suspension
Ret. 1989 WRC Bandama Rallye G. de Mevius W. Lux #11 [UNKNOWN] SS56 crash
Ret. 1989 WRC Rally of Finland G. de Mevius W. Lux #22 [UNKNOWN] SS3 gearbox
Ret. 1989 WRC Rally of Finland S. Stubbings M. Corner #46 [UNKNOWN] SS19 ?
Ret. 1989 WRC Rally of Finland J. Niemi . UNKNOWN #107 [UNKNOWN] SS15 ?
Ret. 1989 WRC Rally New Zealand G. de Mevius W. Lux #11 [UNKNOWN] SS0 withdrawn before start
Ret. 1989 WRC Rally New Zealand S. Stubbings M. Corner #26 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1989 WRC Acropolis Rally G. de Mevius W. Lux #25 [UNKNOWN] SS36 suspension
Ret. 1989 WRC Safari Rally G. de Mevius A. Sidi #65 [UNKNOWN] SS72 gearbox
Ret. 1989 WRC Safari Rally A. Cambiaghi . UNKNOWN #34 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1989 WRC Safari Rally H. Nishiyama H. Sugiura #30 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1988 WRC Rally of Great Britain G. Trelles P. di Bello Reyno #31 [UNKNOWN] SS31 crash
Ret. 1988 WRC Rally of Great Britain H. Nishiyama H. Sugiura #104 [UNKNOWN] SS11 suspension
Ret. 1988 WRC Rally of Finland P. Geitel K. Häkkinen #40 [UNKNOWN] SS3 gearbox
Ret. 1988 WRC Rally of Finland P. Gaban W. Lux #19 [UNKNOWN] SS31 crash
Ret. 1988 WRC Acropolis Rally G. Trelles D. Muzio #22 [UNKNOWN] SS15 gearbox
Ret. 1988 WRC Safari Rally G. Trelles L. Roggia #19 [UNKNOWN] SS99 propshaft
Ret. 1988 WRC Safari Rally G. Noberasco E. Bartolich #22 [UNKNOWN] SS99 ?
Ret. 1988 WRC Rallye de Portugal M. Ercolani L. Roggia #24 [UNKNOWN] SS99 crash
Ret. 1988 WRC Swedish Rally P. Gaban W. Lux #22 [UNKNOWN] SS5 crash
Ret. 1988 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo M. Ercolani L. Roggia #15 [UNKNOWN] SS3 crash
Ret. 1987 WRC Rally of Great Britain S. Stubbings R. Eden #107 [UNKNOWN] SS9 engine
Ret. 1987 WRC Rally of Great Britain M. Ercolani L. Roggia #172 [UNKNOWN] SS33 gearbox
Ret. 1987 WRC Rallye San Remo M. Ercolani . UNKNOWN #23 [UNKNOWN] SS99 crash
Ret. 1987 WRC Rallye San Remo P. Gaban W. Lux #83 [UNKNOWN] SS29 crash
Ret. 1987 WRC Safari Rally Y. Iwase S. Vinayak #25 [UNKNOWN] SS13 gearboc