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Porsche 911 General Information

Story written summer 2007, amongst adding the first S2000 and R-class cars:

You could question why we put this car up only now? Or why that soon? Or why does it take that long for the FIA to allow this car into international rallying? Well, latter can be explained. It is not the job of national championships and authorities to dictate what categories should be run in international championships as WRC, ERC, IRC. If that was the case we soon would have 256 categories, everything was allowed and nobody would understand what is going on. However this explanation makes it the more incredible what a success this new idea is. We are talking N-GT. For everybody groupN was getting a bit boring. 4x4 turbo with less than 300BHP, best in a saloon car just seems a category that has utterly lost touch to road car market reality. Hence for everybody, including national organisers, the top gN category has hardly a choice of cars and is boring to watch. And so the organisers and authorities in Belgium and France came up with the idea N-GT. N-GT means Grand Tourismo cars in production spec. And the Porsche 911 is a classic example for this category.

However unbelievable how successful this idea became. When in 2005 the Belgian Championship opened up to N-GT, Porsche was back as a works team! Alone this should make people think. When have you last seen a works supported Porsche in rallying? With this very quick move the suspiscioun is obvious that Porsche had an interest in rallying since a long time, only found the groupN and WRCar regulations as they were, were not at all suitable for them and their cars. Porsche engineered a groupN rally version out of their 911 GT models and came to an agreement with Belgian Team Future World (formerly running Subaru Impreza WRC and Toyota Corolla WRC) to run these cars. Works driver was Marc Duez.

However Porsche's choice of cars also shows that this seemingly simple category is not easy to control. There is an option between Porsche 911 GT2 & 911 GT3. Here we have the spec of the GT3 for now, as the 996 GT2 is a turbo version with 462BHP, already in road trim well beyond the 300BHP limit and such the GT2 version is not really that welcome even to the creators of this class. Though in competition it didn't seem to matter overly. These cars have huge power, but also usually RWD and a weight in the area of 1.5tons. Therefore groupN wins are not guaranteed for N-GT cars and to date to my knowledge N-GT cars have only won a hand full of rallies outright and that only in Spain and German championships.

Though we have to note these cars are usually RWD and very noisy, cars that call for everybody's emotions. Porsche even supports the Future World (fitting name for N-GT!) project. And within 2 seasons in Belgium and in France all sorts of GT cars entered rally stages from everywhere. Lotus Exige, BMW Z3 M, Hommel, and so on. Since mid 2006 the Belgian Porsches are seriously bullied by Chris van Woensel's Nissan 350Z. Also in 2006 Prodrive(!) entered a pair of Aston Martin Vantage V8 in a selection of French Championship rallies. Drivers were Stéphane Sarrazin and Frédéric Dor. For 2007 there was talk even of Juha Kankkunen driving the Aston Martin in France, although since that rumour no Aston Martin has been seen on rally stages. However instead we have WRC ace Francois Delecour doing the FRC 2007 in a Porsche 911 GT3!

Not only the selection of exciting cars has become big. In 2007 the German authorities opened their championship to N-GT cars, and sure enough the Porsches didn't wait long to party here too.

But from here the avalanche goes further. For the WRC round Rallye Deutschland 2 N-GT Porsche 911 wanted to enter. Maybe typical FIA, they allowed the cars to enter at first, but after entries closed there was a change of mind and the FIA returned to their original position: "N-GT is not a WRC category". Still, the writing is on the wall. Although the already entered N-GT Porsches were refused to start Rallye Deutschland, it clearly made the FIA thinking about this idea. Word is that from 2008 N-GT cars are allowed into the ERC and the IRC - and maybe one day we will see one in the WRC.

That's why the Porsche 911 GT3 N-GT is here. At the moment it is not clear if the car will ever start a WRC event. But N-GT is becoming ever more popular in rallies across Europe. And when we start noting IRC or WRC entries for N-GT cars in our database, well with the birth of the N-GT category Porsche was first to support the idea, produce a car and despite the already huge variety of cars the Porsche is the most common N-GT car at this point.

2016 update:

Meanwhile we have not only seen the debut of the N-GT Porsche in WRC and ERC, but also the creation of an official RGT World Cup. But as well we have seen how far from reality the FIA can act at times - sorry FIA but somehow the N-GT/RGT story went into reverse as soon as the FIA got involved.

For international rally series such as WRC & ERC the N-GT class was renamed into RGT. That is good as it is nicely in line with the R1-R5 classes. And sure enough we do have to find a formula to limit RGT cars to stop them starting with dangerous on muddy rally tracks 500-odd BHP and at the same time allow as many GT cars into rallying as possible. The FIA even went as far as not asking for a homologation but just a log book, while there would be a power to weight (BHP/kg) formula to control power and competitiveness. So far all sounds fantastic, the FIA really had a chance to create an absolute rally dream world! The catch is that the formula was chosen to be far too tight. The cars either weigh as much as a tank or they would have a tiny air restrictor. This then meant that an RGT Porsche would have far less BHP than an N-GT one. And worse even, the beautiful noise is gone with that too! That was the beginning of the end before RGT had even started!

Porsche for a start did not support the new RGT category. Why would they want to spend money and documentation to make their cars slower and more boring? It was Richard Tuthill of Tuthill Porsche in Warburton, Oxfordshire to develop a Porsche 996 to RGT specs. He debuted the car himself in Rallye Deutschland 2014. In 2015 Francois Delecour in the Tuthill Porsche won the brand new RGT World Cup with 2 wins and 2 second places from 5 rounds. His main opposition was Romain Dumas, Marc Duez and Patrick Snijers all in Porsches. Francois' best show of performance was RGT World Cup round5 Rallye du Valais, where he was 4th overall amidst RRC and R5 cars and ERC regulars as drivers, when with the finish line in sight he had to retire for a small radiator issue. Yet despite this promise in other ERC and WRC rounds RGT cars could rarely make it into the top10 and not even the sound could make them much noticed. The tenor was clear that the air restrictor rule should be more relaxed. And the FIA promised to indeed allow for larger air restrictors in RGT, but when for 2016 this change did not come after all, Tuthill sold their sole RGT Porsche to Italy, stopped their 991 (997 successor) RGT development and in the first two rounds of the RGT World Cup 2016 not a single RGT car entered.

Somehow RGT still is an absolutely brilliant idea regulated to death for no reason. The hope dies last. Maybe the FIA sees sense for the future? We only need minor tweaks to make RGT a massive success for rallying as a whole.
 

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Porsche 911 Evolutions

 
 
Model & Evo. (Activity)
 
BHP@
RPM
Torque
(Nm)@
RPM
Length
Width
Height
Weight
(Kg/BPM
Ratio)
 
Trans.
(W'base)
Porsche 911 996 GT3 (22-22) 387/7200 377/5500 4460.1852.1280 1450 (3.5) RWD (2360)
Porsche 911 997 GT3 (00-00) 0 0 0.0.0 0 (0) 0 (0)

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Porsche 911 Results

This is an unofficial Car Results list and may be incomplete.

Pos Event Driver Co-Driver # Rego hh:mm:ss
16th. 2018 IRC Ypres Rally C. Tanghe D. Squedin #36 [UNKNOWN] 2:41:8.9
18th. 2018 IRC Ypres Rally P. Snijers D. Thierie #32 [UNKNOWN] 2:43:18.5
27th. 2017 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo R. Dumas G. de Turckheim #23 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
18th. 2017 WRC Tour de Corse R. Dumas . UNKNOWN #21 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
52nd. 2017 IRC Barum Rally Zlin R. Dumas D. Giraudet #30 [UNKNOWN] 2:25:45.5
23rd. 2017 IRC Rallye di Roma Capitale R. Dumas D. Giraudet #19 [UNKNOWN] 2:19:15.2
23rd. 2015 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo F. Delecour D. Savignoni #20 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
26th. 2015 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo R. Dumas D. Giraudet #23 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
40th. 2015 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo M. Duez S. Vyncke #22 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
19th. 2015 IRC Ypres Rally F. Delecour D. Savignoni #24 [UNKNOWN] 2:33:20.7
13th. 2015 IRC Ypres Rally P. Snijers A. Bruneel #26 [UNKNOWN] 2:31:57.4
20th. 2015 IRC Ypres Rally M. Duez H. Béatse #27 [UNKNOWN] 2:33:44.1
26th. 2015 WRC Rallye Deutschland R. Dumas D. Giraudet #25 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
53rd. 2015 WRC Rallye Deutschland F. Delecour D. Savignoni #24 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
19th. 2015 WRC Tour de Corse F. Delecour S. de Castelli #25 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
27th. 2014 WRC Rallye Deutschland R. Tuthill S. Prevot #132 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
19th. 2014 WRC Rallye de France Alsace R. Dumas D. Giraudet #93 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
37th. 2014 WRC Rallye de France Alsace F. Delecour D. Savignoni #92 [UNKNOWN] 0:00:00
5th. 2014 IRC Tour de Corse R. Dumas D. Giraudet #14 [UNKNOWN] 2:42:30.3
2nd. 2009 IRC Rallye Asturias S. Vallejo D. Vallejo #203 [UNKNOWN] 2:43:4.9

Porsche 911 Retirements

This is an unofficial Car Model Retirements list and may be incomplete.

Pos Event Driver Co-Driver # Rego Reason
Ret. 2018 WRC Tour de Corse J. Coyne S. Joyce #22 [UNKNOWN] SS1 crash
Ret. 2017 IRC Ypres Rally P. Snijers F. Caesemaeker #43 [UNKNOWN] SS0 withdrawn budget
Ret. 2017 WRC Tour de Corse J. Leandri . UNKNOWN #121 [UNKNOWN] SS4 ?
Ret. 2017 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo R. Dumas G. de Turckheim #23 [UNKNOWN] SS2 crash
Ret. 2016 IRC Barum Rally Zlin V. Pech P. Uhel #91 [UNKNOWN] SS10 gearbox
Ret. 2016 IRC Ypres Rally M. Duez S. Vyncke #54 [UNKNOWN] SS11 ?
Ret. 2015 IRC Rallye du Valais F. Delecour S. de Castelli #14 [UNKNOWN] SS15 radiator
Ret. 2015 WRC Tour de Corse R. Dumas D. Giraudet #24 [UNKNOWN] SS5 gearbox
Ret. 2015 WRC Rallye Deutschland F. Delecour D. Savignoni #24 [UNKNOWN] SS7 radiator
Ret. 2015 WRC Rallye Deutschland F. Delecour D. Savignoni #24 [UNKNOWN] SS13 crash
Ret. 2015 IRC Ypres Rally R. Dumas D. Giraudet #25 [UNKNOWN] SS16 crash & driveshaft
Ret. 2015 IRC Circuit of Ireland R. Woodside A. Harryman #46 [UNKNOWN] SS7 transmission
Ret. 2014 WRC Rally of Great Britain R. Tuthill C. Cooledge #84 [UNKNOWN] SS0 FIA did not accept gravel homologation changes
Ret. 2014 IRC Tour de Corse F. Delecour D. Savignoni #3 [UNKNOWN] SS0 did not start
Ret. 2014 WRC Rallye de France Alsace F. Delecour D. Savignoni #92 [UNKNOWN] SS11 crash
Ret. 2014 WRC Rally of Finland J. Ylipahkala P. Lahtinen #81 [UNKNOWN] SS1 withdrawn after stage
Ret. 2014 WRC Rally of Finland J. Ylipahkala P. Lahtinen #81 [UNKNOWN] SS5 ?
Ret. 2014 WRC Rallye Monte Carlo M. Duez S. Vyncke #50 [UNKNOWN] SS11 electrics