VW Polo WRC - 2012

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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 14 Sep 2011 01:16

http://is.gd/eFpMkM

Translated article of the Polo WRC. Yes, an actual Polo WRC is being tested somewhere in France. Some pictures of the Polo WRC, and I see some Fabia components. Steering rack is straight out of the Fabia and even the gear shifter is identical to the one used in the Fabia S2000.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 15 Sep 2011 20:59

Riedemann will drive the VW Fabia in Catalunya.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 19 Sep 2011 03:26

Well Willy Rampf does have experience in Rallying, since he worked on the BMW endurance motorcycle program in the 90's.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 20 Sep 2011 18:29

The recent VW tests could have been done by Weijs and Hanninen, but at the same time the German media is reporting that Depping and Sainz did the tests.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 22 Sep 2011 18:06

Actually, that test was with a Fabia S2000 with Polo R WRC components. Testing will start in November, with Dieter Depping and Carlos Sainz.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby ChrisB » 27 Sep 2011 10:30

rv65 wrote:The recent VW tests could have been done by Weijs and Hanninen, but at the same time the German media is reporting that Depping and Sainz did the tests.

Maybe the RV65 post after that relativates it all again. Otherwise I would suspect German media to have been wrong here. Well, I don't know much about this test either, but this test was the reason why Hänninen's entry to the Rallye San Remo has been cancelled, so Hänninen was definitely one of the drivers.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 29 Sep 2011 09:19

http://www.mudsnowandtar.com/opinion/wh ... ll-vw-sign

An opinion on which drivers VW will sign for the Polo R WRC. This is just an opinion, so don't take this literally.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby ChrisB » 29 Sep 2011 10:29

I tend to agree with the judgement. In fact the writer hits the point with everything he says. I.e. Ogier has started winning rallies, now would be the worst time for him to take a sabbatical. The only point I don't agree is Petter Solberg's lack of ability to develop a car. Was Subaru his fault? Look at Michel Nandon and Mario Fornaris at Suzuki, the best in the business can't make a dog of a car go fast. I do see one of the Ford drivers at VW, and here Hirvonen is more likely, for his contract allows a departure and I am not sure Ford is happy any more with his performance, on too many rallies he was off form compared to Latvala. Petter seems obvious for his current privateer status and for FX Demaison, exactly as the article says.

So in short, Hirvonen and Petter are the two names I see at VW. The only hick up I see is that VW would like a talented upcoming driver too. And although there was talk of a 3rd car, the rules make a 3rd car utterly pointless! And Hirvonen and Petter don't fill the bill of a newcomer with proven talent. So here I have Hänninen and Mikkelsen. Mikkelsen is actually a name not mention in the article. I would add Neuville. With German being his mother language, Neuville is the closest to a German super talent VW can at this moment get. Though Neuville is a way too nice guy to drive at VW, so I hope he finds a different, deserving career. And between Hänninen and Mikkelsen I would think VW would pick Mikkelsen for he is much younger. Between Hirvonen and Petter it's difficult to call.

If VW however enters a 2nd "Junior" Team, well not sure if an M2 team with lesser cars that still can take makes points away from VW makes much point. But if so, then as a junior team the game may be slightly different. Not sure Hänninen qualifies as a Junior. Then maybe it is Hirvonen & Petter for Team A and Mikkelsen and a proper German - most likely Riedemann, since they already give him a second chance, I somehow doubt Gaßner jr. at the RBR Team is on their list - could make Team B. Also just speculation, but what is said in that article I think hits the points and judges the situations of each driver correctly.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 06 Oct 2011 08:09

VW has been given the approval to take over MAN.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 06 Oct 2011 08:13

VW is also interested in a female driver. So the B team could have Riedemann and some female driver. This is just speculation, but I'm sure Molly Taylor looks like an interesting prospect.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 13 Oct 2011 21:47

KKK will test the Polo WRC, and it's supposedly going to be the first test. KKK of course is Kankkunen. This is according to the Turun Sanomat.

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... 65720.html
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 22 Oct 2011 01:50

http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/and_ ... were_four/

Kris Nissen hopes to announce a driver for next year in the next few weeks. VW is going to have 4 drivers next year. I'm sure Petter Solberg would be interested and is likely able to drive for a few more years. I'm sure the German driver would be either Riedemann or Sepp Wiegand. VW will probably drive some Fabia's next year and do some more Polo WRC testing. Maybe VW might do a few events in the Polo, but who knows for sure.

http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/polo ... d_running/

It looks like Dieter Depping has tested the first Polo R WRC, not the Fabia with Polo parts. I guess he isn't a bad test driver and I'm sure Kankkunen and Sainz will test the Polo WRC. Petter and Bosse are also good candidates for testing the Polo WRC.

Just some more news from Hanover.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 22 Oct 2011 01:54

I forgot to mention that in the Polo WRC testing article, Hanninen would test the new Polo WRC.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 23 Oct 2011 05:08

What about Felix Herbold? He seems like a good candidate to drive the Polo.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby ChrisB » 23 Oct 2011 06:38

I quite like Felix Herbold and he seems probably the fastest rally driver Germany has to offer at this moment. But seeing the stage times of the Germans in IRC.... ...wasn't Matthew Wilson available next year?
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 23 Oct 2011 08:54

Wilson always manages to get a program, even though he says he doesn't have enough money for next year.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 31 Oct 2011 21:33

VW is going to use Sachs dampers on the Polo WRC.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 02 Nov 2011 19:03

I've found the unthinkable. The first test video of the Polo R WRC. I did see a GoPro camera on some of the shots, so this could be an indication that VW is working on an official test video. This was a top secret test in Veldenz, Germany, but some people have managed to find it. VW is using the Frankfurt and Sardinia livery for this test. Carlos Sainz was the test driver which is a good sign.



It sounds quite good IMO and it does appear to be fast. It does sound like a DS3 though it also reminds me of the Mini WRC.

License plate for this vehicle is WOB-VW 351, which is what was able to decipher from the 1080p version. I guess VW will use WOB for the works cars instead of the Hanover plates.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby ChrisB » 03 Nov 2011 01:08

Thanks for the info.

rv65 wrote:This was a top secret test in Veldenz, Germany, but some people have managed to find it.

Yes, top secret in Veldenz, which is the A1 from Trier to the North, Exit 128 "Salmtal", just like going to the Dhrontal stage, but on the L47 carry on straight on through Osann to the River Mosel.

rv65 wrote:License plate for this vehicle is WOB-VW 351, which is what was able to decipher from the 1080p version. I guess VW will use WOB for the works cars instead of the Hanover plates.

Jep, I can confirm WOB-VW 351, Chassis N° 0. It is unclear if they use the H or WOB plates for the final project. Volkswagen HQ is WOB, Volkswagen Motorsport is H, on most former rally projects, including Polo S1600, Golf F2, they used H-plates. In fact always H-plates, last time they used WOB was on the Rallye Golf G60 of 1990. The Dakar winning trucks were WOB-registered, though.
http://www.rallye-info.com/galleryphoto ... ediaid=340
The H-RM plate in this pic is a sight curiosity though, if you want. The VW Golf F2 (that weren't on SBG plates) had H-VW (you guess the meaning), while the VW Fabias at the moment have H-VM for Volkswagen Motorsport. Just a few little games, like the TTE Toyotas always had as long as available K-AM, with AM actually meaning Andersson Motorsport. Not many people knew that, especially since the tuners were officially called TTE.
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Re: VW Polo WRC - 2012

Postby rv65 » 03 Nov 2011 08:48

http://is.gd/a9ESMG
http://is.gd/UBa1vk

Gallery of the Polo WRC test. There was a film crew in one of the photos shooting some video, so that could air soon. Again, I did spot some GoPro HD cameras, so VW is working on an official video of this test with footage from those cheap POV HD cameras.

One Czech dude says that this car handles more like the Fiesta and not the Fabia. I guess it's because of the Sachs dampers. VW had evaluated the Reiger Fabia setup, but chose the Sachs setup instead.

Finally, some people on the evil forum said that the car isn't running a restrictor, as it seems to be more powerful than the DS3 and Fiesta. Speed can deceive, as a car that appears to be fast can be quite slow. On Top Gear, Jezza said many times that a slow run can be quite quick. Then again, the majority of people on that forum said it was on par with the DS3 in terms of speed. We shall see about that.

Just some more info on the Polo WRC.
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